After Leopard [say no to send, until gave up sending], now Taurus. Chancellor Scholz Disagree to Send Taurus Missile to Help Ukraine

in ENGLISH AND DEUTSCH

Berlin 7.41pm

Scholz zeigt damit offen, dass er nicht möchte, dass die Ukraine die Krim befreit. Er hat offenbar auch Angst davor. Beschämend, dass der Bundeskanzler größere Angst vor einer Niederlage Russlands als vor einer Niederlage der Ukrainer hat. Absolut unerklärlich, insbesondere vor dem Hintergrund der innenpolitischen Situation in den USA. Er schadet damit Deutschland auf Jahre.

Unglaublich, so kann das alles nichts werden. es geht ja noch nicht mal nur um die Krim. Man hat das Gefühl das Olaf Scholz generell nicht will das die Ukraine irgend etwas zurück erobern kann.

Der Plan (auch in den USA) war wahrscheinlich, dass die Ukraine "ein bißchen" Erfolg haben soll, aber nicht zu viel. Man hat dann versucht mit Excel zu errechnen, wie viele panzer es braucht, um das Meer zu erreichen.

Warum der Kanzler die Taurus-Raketen NICHT liefert. Schwerer Scholz-Rückschlag für die Ukraine. Die deutsche Regierung plant in absehbarer Zeit keine Lieferung der von der ukrainischen Armee so dringend erbetenen Taurus-Marschflugkörper. 

Kiew bittet seit Mai um die Langstrecken-Raketen aus Deutschland, nachdem Frankreich und Großbritannien die Marschflugkörper „Scalp“ bzw. „Storm Shadow“ geschickt hatten, womit die ukrainische Armee während der laufenden Gegenoffensive bereits Ziele aus weiter Entfernung treffen konnte.

Durch Äußerungen verschiedener deutscher Minister gab es in der Ukraine die Hoffnung, dass die Taurus-Raketen spätestens diesen Herbst kommen würden. Entsprechend äußerten sich Verteidigungsminister Boris Pistorius (SPD), Außenministerin Annalena Baerbock (Grüne) und Finanzminister Christian Lindner (FDP).

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To make sure, Taurus missile, in detail, The Taurus KEPD 350 is a Swedish-German air-launched cruise missile. The next few months will be an interesting test case as to whether European leaders really believe supporting Ukraine to the hilt is an existential issue for them. Perhaps it isn’t? And today, Berlin disagreed to send Taurus missiles, like in February 2023, disagreed to send leopard, and after 5 weeks full-push diplomatically, finally Scholz agreed to send leopard tank.

Turkiye is preparing to host the next gathering of national security advisers working to build support for a peace summit Ukraine wants to hold later this year. In April 2022 [on specific, March 28-April 4 2022], less 2 months after war started, both Russia and Ukraine already so near with deal to end the war, but the potential deal burst in the air, when all delegation, still in Istanbul, found out investigation by SPIEGEL Germany about brutality in Bucha.

Germany currently has no plans to supply Ukraine with Taurus cruise missiles because they are not comparable to missiles provided by France and Britain. In the U.S., President Joe Biden has twice now referred to a deal he had with former Speaker Kevin Owen McCarthy to get more assistance to Ukraine, possibly with appropriating more funds. Aid to Ukraine doesn’t reduce the risk of war with China. 

You can support aid to the Ukrainians without leaning on silly arguments. IR isn’t Connect Four. But losing a commitment in European soil to help more for Ukraine, of course endangered Ukraine. No new Ukraine money in the stopgap. Seems to me there are two options here. First, cry about it and call people who oppose the aid fascists and traitors, or second, use the situation as a way to push Europe to do more than it currently is. Too many are choosing the first option.

Contrary Berlin, the Pentagon will transfer thousands of weapons and rounds of ammunition seized from Iran and send them to Ukraine, according to a Defense Department official, a move that comes as congressional infighting threatens to delay or derail aid to Kyiv.

The idea that DEMOCRATS should have bailed out McCarthy is a codicil of the larger logic of DC punditry in which GOPS bad behavior/destruction is assumed, a baseline like weather, and DEMS managing the consequences of that behavior is a given. It’s part of DC being hardwired for the GOPS. The chaos in the House leaves Ukraine in a dangerous limbo. Let’s be clear, if the US congress does not pass a funding bill, Ukraine will be in deep trouble. 

It is right to help Ukraine defend itself and it is right to consider the potential fallout from the war on US & world security. "The US challenge is to strike a pragmatic balance between these contending interests in justice & order."

Berlin is also concerned that the missiles could be used to target the Kerch Bridge linking Russia to Crimea, the Ukrainian peninsula seized and annexed by Moscow in 2014.

Kyiv has been pushing Berlin to supply the Taurus missiles, which could give Ukraine the ability to cause significant damage deeper within Russian-occupied territory. Berlin has repeatedly said it will only act in concert with Washington on arms deliveries to Ukraine.

In an internal meeting last week, Chancellor Olaf Scholz told parliament's foreign affairs committee that Taurus missiles were not comparable to France's SCALP or Britain's Storm Shadow cruise missiles as those countries contribute geodata on targets directly themselves and are involved with their own personnel.

Sept 20, 2023, Zelensky met with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in New York to discuss German aid to Ukraine and the situation at the front lines.

According to an announcement posted over Telegram, Zelensky and Scholz discussed the situation at the front and the priority needs of the military. Germany has announced a new military aid package worth $430 million in recent days, though it remains to be seen if the desired long range missiles will be included.

In May the German government announced a military aid package of approximately $3 billion worth of material, the largest single package to date. This followed the March announcement of $13 billion worth of aid and credit, with $3 billion allocated for 2023 and $9.4 billion in credit for the years 2024 through 2032.

A spokesperson for the chancellery said there were no new updates regarding the issue of Taurus cruise missiles for Ukraine.

British government officials had sought in recent weeks to persuade Germany to send Taurus missiles to Ukraine.

Back again, the chaos in the House leaves Ukraine in a dangerous limbo. Let’s be clear, if the US congress does not pass a funding bill, Ukraine will be in deep trouble.  A lot of Ukrainians will die and their ability to fight on will be severely compromised. Without funding the US will not be able to rapidly supply Ukrainian forces. The US is currently doing this through “Presidential Drawdown Authority” which enables POTUS to take equipment from US military stocks and send to Ukraine. That enables rapid supply.

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